I spoke to a Tumblr Support rep this morning and she agreed that my recent Once Upon A Time related subject was not malicious in nature, just a sensitive one people completely took the wrong way and pushed too far. That been said, the reblog tree will be cut down within 2 days. Sorry, haters and sheep. You were wrong. Once you truly understand that all people are equal… even you (not higher or lower), you too will rise above the “I won’t touch that” crap. My only issue was with politics getting involved in our entertainment. Changing classic stories suit support political correctness should be considered unethical. Also know that I have reported each and every single one of you for harassment. I warned you but you just had to keep pushing. I run 2 very public businesses so I can’t let things like this stand.
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Just so we’re clear this is the guy that wrote this post. I really want Tumblr to explain to me how reblogging his bullshit & debunking it thoroughly = harassment.
Once again Tumblr’s official position is that debunking racist bullshit is harassment, but actual racist bullshit is not.
Reblogging so everyone gets the context and can see how fucked up tumblr support truly is.
sweet fucking christ, tumblr, just hire me so i can teach your support how to do basic ass shit
what the hell is this
One of the main points I emphasize over and over again on this blog is the fluidity of fairy tales. Harping on the sanctity of “classic” fairy tales is a farce in the first degree. There is no such thing. The “classic” are merely the literary, taken from oral and other sources and re-written to promote current ideals and beliefs. Ironically the very idea this individual is arguing against.
For the Grimms it was the bourgeois view of how the lower classes should live and should behave, written to indoctrinate German children with these perceived values. For Perrault it was veiled instructions on proper decorum for young ladies at King Louis XIV’s court that occasionally contained warnings about specific personages there. Some literary fairy tales even combined fairy tales, or invented new ones, in light of current values in order to protest them, such as those written by Hans Christian Andersen. Many of his fairy tales were his personal expressions of fury and despair over his homosexuality and the fate it condemned him to in the 19th century, that’s why so many ended in misery.
The narrative in many centuries old fairy tales, Grimm ones especially, are no longer valued by 21st century audiences. They depict antisemitism and white supremacy, contain messages of racial purity and xenophobia, and have deep seated views on misogyny and able-ism. Their stories are a celebration of such beliefs as they are ones held dear at the time they were written.
Newer retellings celebrate newer beliefs. 20th century retellings, from the Victorian brand of fairy tales popular for the nursery to Disney’s retellings on the big screen, show new ideals and new beliefs and celebrate those instead. They became the new “classic” fairy tales. That’s how fairy tales work.
Fairy tales are meant to be retold, it’s how they survive. That is why they have been told over and over for generations, each time they have been changed and morphed and twisted to suit each century’s narrative. To argue against the retelling of a fairy tale is to argue against the very thing that has allowed you to know that fairy tale exisits in the first place.
tumblr. you guys are idiots.
This morning, several screenshots and reblogs of this post started flooding my dash (and a lot of yours too. A post in which David Karp, the founder and CEO of Tumblr, asked whether or not it was ok to say the n word whilst actually saying the n word. This post was dated 2010.
This sparked what will not be the last in a series of conversations about exactly how little this networking site and its creator care at all about People of Color and, in this instance and many others, Black people specifically. That post was old, but there have been much more recent events to add to this issue.
Namely, both Dion and Riley (among other Black and PoC bloggers I follow) have received emails from Tumblr staff which threaten to shut down their blogs for hate speech, when said ‘hate speech’ has always been in direct self-defense of anon-and-off bloggers who’ve been aggressively racist toward them, often using the same slur in Mr. Karp’s post above.
But Tumblr staff and David Karp don’t actually give a fuck about hate speech. They’ve made this perfectly clear time and time again by responding with ‘freedom of speech’ to distress calls from People of Color who are experiencing direct, abrasive, stalkerish racism from white Tumblr users, and then by threatening to shut down those same victimized bloggers for defending themselves.
And about that freedom of speech thing. Here’s a screencap of the very first section of Tumblr’s community guideline policy.
Tumblr staff knows very well that this is a private forum and that freedom of speech does not apply when that speech is defined as malicious bigotry. The staff knows that they have every right (and responsibility) to remove posts or blogs with anti-queer, anti-trans, ableist, and rasist content (especially when they directly target another blogger). However, Tumblr staff also seems to be living on a post-racial internet where racism is impossible. Unless, of course, you’re being ‘racist’ toward a white person.
So, in this toxic environment where People of Color have been continually subjected to racial slurs, hate speech, death threats, rape threats, stalking, dehumanization and dismissal-while being given no opportunity to defend themselves without further threatening from Tumblr staff itself-a number of bloggers packed up today and moved on to other sites. No blogs were deleted by Tumblr, but a few folks didn’t feel like sitting around and waiting for that to happen.
I hope to keep in touch with the people who’ve left, and I hope that these other networking sites treat them well. I hope that the founders and CEOs of those sites don’t vomit ‘freedom of speech’ in their faces and then threaten to silence them for defending themselves when and if they are subject to violent, unprovoked attacks of racial hatred. And I will do what I can when I can to watch closely what happens here, because I’ll be staying. This is where I collect.
Protect yourselves and the people you love.
Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.
The thing I don’t get, is how moving to another blog hosting site will help - like there aren’t bigots everywhere :/
Reasons why this post is bullshit:
Reason 1: You’re defending dumbthingswhitepplsay who is a vitriolic hate-filled bigot. Reserve racism does not exist - there is only racism, and Riley is one of those racists.
Reason 2: The stated purposes of tumblr does not matter - they can change at any point in time.
You agreed to this:
which you should understand by agreeing with this
This next section to the terms of service pretty much sums up the fact that tumblr as a company can do whatever the fuck it pleases:
So guess what doesn’t matter?
Tumblr staff knows very well that this is a private forum
This is a public forum. Don’t even begin to act like it’s a private place for privacy full of private spaces where people can be private.
Trust me, this is public. 4chan is more “private” than tumblr.
freedom of speech does not apply when that speech is defined as malicious bigotry
Actually it does. Legally, hate speech is freedom of speech. It changes when its threats (which I know happen, and I don’t condone and should be punished using legal means).
As far as malicious bigotry, you can’t condone it no matter what. If, on one hand, you hate bigotry, but then resort to it in “self-defense” you aren’t really against bigotry are you? You’re just against bigotry towards you.
One of my friends in real life is in the middle of this shitstorm and is being accused of the bullshit stfuconfederates and others are saying.
But guess what, if he gets banned, that’s his problem. Why? Because this is not a democracy, this is a business. If you don’t like it, don’t agree to the terms of service and leave.
I like the way I didn’t make this post but you still found the time to search out my asshole and plant yourself up it until you got clawed out with a backscratcher.
My ass is not your home.
Support freedom of my ass from your bullshit!
Also your reverse racism bullshit cracks me up. Just because you insist it’s “just racism”, we all know what you mean…”REVERSE RAYCISMS!!!” Poor whiteys.
Oh also white people
Go collect your vitriolic hate-filled bigot. They keep showing their ass with this reverse racism thing and it’s getting pathetic as fuck. My asshole needs a break.
MY BUTT NEEDS A BREAK GUISE
OMG THEY WENT TO LAW SCHOOL AND STUDIED THE LAW LETS ALL LISTEN TO THEM. Never mind that laws are written for the sole purpose of protecting white people and only white people.
And all I saw in the terms and conditions is that Tumblr can be as racist as it wants and will NOT protect POC users and has no obligation to do so. Which everyone already fucking knew. So errr what’s your point exactly?
Besides shitting all over Riley. :/
But I’m such a hateful vitrolic bigot! I mean, those white people NEED fucking protection from the TPoC they are trying to murder through searching out their family, attempted doxing, and making random connections to people I’ve never met and don’t at all know because of potential vague similarities in the way we speak because apparently online culture doesn’t have a manner of speaking!
I AM A DANGER TO THESE PEOPLE
I AM THREATENING THEIR LIVES AND LIVELIHOODS
oh wait i’m not doing that?
white people haven’t died since i started telling them to shoot themselves off into the sun?
not even one????
meanwhile several trans people have been doxed, and several poc have rape and death threats and their own addresses coming into their inboxes and white people approaching them IN REAL LIFE to talk shit about their lives online?
someone got fucking beat-up after she was outed to her parents through a fucking letter?
these fucking crackers have no effect on people’s real lives, right?
because for every bitch that harasses them and claims that reverse racism bullshit, someone isn’t out there trying to out a nigga to their family and have their life COMPLETELY RUINED IN THE REAL WORLD THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE INTERNET
but who cares right
it’s the racist crackers who have to worry about seeing “fuck white people” after someone’s tried to do any of the above to them in real life
totally the racist crackers who are having all the problems
you poor crackers
feel free to go die in a fire to spare yourself the agony of having this person who cannot do a damn thing to you and isn’t so evil enough to try not tell you to fuck yourself when you’re a racist shit~
let me in fact get out my tiny violin and play it for you, titanic-going-down-style, since apparently your hurt feefees are worth more than the lives of the people you’re trying to ruin
bawwwwwww goes the violin for the souls of these crackers and their pet uncle toms of all PoC races
bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww goes the violin
Its obviously racism. and white people can not experience racism, but they sure as shit can uphold that muthafucka. The fact that this white person or white identifying poc feels the NEED or the RIGHT to come in and defend Tumblrs racist ass piece of trash CEO that allows for harassment of Trans, PoC, disabled, and the like is disgusting. Libertarian-and-stoya you are TRASH. complete trash. The type of stalker, abusive, white upholding behavior is something we have seen before. We have seen it george stinney jr., in CeCe McDonald, in Troy Davis. These laws aren’t meant for us. If they were the ones that you spout would protect Riley from their harassment. It would protect trolling racist pieces of ass flakes from coming INTO THEIR SPACE and HARASSING THEM. and yet…. here you are defending the right to attack someone for merely existing. you fuckboy need to have a seat. on the longest sharpest sword possible. eye first. racist twat.
To David Karp and all of those who work under the Support Staff:
You are all misogynist, racist, homophobic trash—every single one of you. And David? Yeah, you, David Karp. You need to make some changes.
1.) You and your support team allow people to racially harass people of color. You do the same to queer people. And you especially do this to Queer People of Color. People send us racial slurs, rape threats, death threats because we are not white, because we are not straight, or both; they stalk us, they stalk our families, they continually harass us. Even when said harassers are reported, your response is that you need proof. And after you get proof, your response is: “Freedom of speech. If you don’t like it, don’t look.” Nevermind the fact that these racists come to us and harass us in ways which we have to see until we have blocked them.
2.) When people of color get pushed far enough and dare to stand up to those who are harassing them, you and your support team contact the victim and threaten to delete their blog because “Hate speech isn’t in our policy.” WITHOUT PROOF. You look through our blogs, decide you don’t like what we have to say about our own oppression, and then try to shut us down for defending ourselves.
3.) After all of this, you, a white man have the nerve to ask, “It’s okay if I say the n word, right?” (Spoiler alert: NO IT ISN’T, because it’s a fucking racial slur, you racist fuckface.)
Let’s take a minute to think about that one. David Karp thinks people using racial slurs at people of color is acceptable, thinks people of color responding with justified anger is hate speech, and then has the nerve to ask if he can use one of said slurs himself.
4. You have slut shamed.
5. You have mocked your users.
You’ve done nothing but show how much you care about the base that keeps your business afloat: NOT AT ALL. You don’t care one fucking bit.
How dare you, David Karp. How. Fucking. Dare. You. How dare you think it is perfectly acceptable to take advantage of people the way that you do. How dare you ignore our cries for help, perpetuate problems that affect us in very real ways, and then expect us to be here, to trust you, to be your patrons.
David, you seem to forget who we are. So let me remind you.
We—the users of this website, the people who you see fit to trample over every day—feed your pay check.
WE are the ones who got this Tumblr business off of the ground. Not you. Without us, the users, Tumblr would be an empty, failed site. It is because of US that you have thrived.
WE are your supporters.
WE are your investors.
WE are the gears that keep your machine running.
WE are the beams that hold your fucking website up.
And we are here and lift this site (and by proxy, you) by choice, not because we have to be.
And WE can let it fall just as quickly.
You have shown time and time again that you don’t give a damn about us. You don’t care about victimizing people who make up the fucking majority of the global population. You don’t care about hurting the users who make up over fifty percent of your userbase. But we’ve seen what you do care about. You don’t care that your users get harassed for not being white. You don’t care that your users get harassed for being female. You don’t care that your users get harassed because they’re queer. You don’t care about doing anything to protect us.
And you apparently don’t care about keeping us, either, given your refusal to revise your security issues.
All you care about is your site running your way, everyone else be damned, included the people who keep it afloat and keep you sitting comfy and rich in the first place. You care about nothing but yourself and the money you make off of this website.
But you need to listen to us, David Karp. You need to start caring about us.. You may have made the concept for Tumblr, but we’re the ones running this machine. And we can bring it all to a screeching halt just as quickly. Things need to change. You need to take action against the real hate speech. You need to listen to your users who get hurt on this site every day. You need to reform your safety policy. You need to start making changes to this website to accommodate what the users want. You need to start worrying about our safety because when our lives are put in danger because of your lack of security options on this site, your website is a cause of whatever happens to us.
You need to listen to us.
If you’re not going to do that, then fine. You can have your site. You can have it your way. And you can have it all by your fucking self, because I am not going to keep my gear in this machine turning if you’re going to continually shit on me every day.
Keep making an ass of yourself and acting like this website, this castle that you’ve built, is built on the most solid of rocks, but don’t you dare forget that you built it on us, people who will let you go and let you fall if you shit on us enough.
You may be The Creator, but we are The People.
And we are not happy.
Signed with the utmost sincerity,
[Please feel free to sign your name if you want]
Signed and passed along.
Signed and boosted
anyone know how?
I have been on the hunt for a perfect tumblr theme… but, i am rather picky and want the about me, ask a question, twitter, and the actual whole quotes to show when posted…. asking for much? i didn’t think so, but apparently I was…lets see if this one sticks.